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1 Elisha on 2009 05 22

I think Arizals statement must be qualified in two ways: 1. If you learn the entire night without wasting any time at all 2. If you don’t endanger yourself, through stupidity, that year.

2 ? on 2009 05 22

Is staying up the second night is real thing, is there a source for this custom?

3 TorahLab on 2009 05 24

The source for the second night seems to be the Shelah in Mesechta Shavous

4 Ari Enkin on 2009 05 27

Not enough has been written in sefarim about NOT staying up on Shavuot night if you wont be able to daven properly.

If on Purim, where getting drunk is a mitzva, one should not do so if one will not be able to bentch/daven maariv later on—how much more so should one forgo the *custom* of staying up all night if one wont be able to daven properly.

It is certinly a hallowed and revered custom, but context is everything.

Ari Enkin

5 UR on 2009 05 28

Re; Ari’s comment about staying up and davening properly - I think this is something that is definitely for the youngsters. If one can pull off all-nighters before taking a morning test, handling davening should not be an issue. I do think that people hit an age where that would just not be doable. I think my age limit was 25.

btw: if one is irritable after staying up, than I would think that would not qualify as being able to daven properly.

6 David Kunkel on 2010 05 24

I have a question about “staying up all night”: If one takes a nap between nightfall and midnight (Tzeitz Cochavim and Chatzos Halailah) and then studies from Chatzos until daybreak (Alos Hashachar), does that count as “all night” from the point of view of the Arizal?

Note

7 Jake on 2011 06 07

Hi,

What about areas (e.g. England) where the stars don’t emerge until 11PM?

Jake

8 Jake on 2011 06 07

I mean, how to fulfill “temimos?”

Thanks